Autre vase dont on peut dire de fort bonnes choses.

(Another vase about which we can say very good things)

Attributed to:
Saint-Aubin, Charles-Germain de (b.1721, d.1786)
Drawing is based on an illustration in Caylus, "Recueil d'antiquités" (1752)
Place of Production:
Paris, France
watercolour, ink and graphite on paper
Accession number:
One of a set, see others


Brief Description:

A green sabot-shaped vessel with an ornate handle is displayed from the side.

Curatorial Commentary

The target of this satirical comment appears to be the comte de Caylus, the celebrated patron, collector, writer and engraver, who was a friend of the Saint-Aubin family. The source is Caylus, vol. i, 1752, pl. XLIII, fig. V. The vessel, there described as a bronze vase of inelegant form and in poor repair, is catalogued alongside other Etruscan artefacts on pp.113-114. Volume i of this pioneering work of antiquarian scholarship is was also a source for the images at 675.126, 675.186, 675.187, 675.189, 675.205 and 675.207.

As with the picture on the facing page (675.126), where a similar vase is accorded an elaborate mock provenance, Charles-Germain de Saint-Aubin makes light of Caylus’s scholarly endeavours by ironically ascribing value and prestige to what was published as a mundane, damaged object. (Stein, 2012) The caption here should be read in conjunction with that on the facing page.

Physical description

Dimensions (mm):
187 x 132
Autre vase dont on peut dire de fort / bonnes choses.
Inscribed by Charles-Germain de Saint-Aubin, below image, in ink

Top right corner, in ink
Translation of inscription
Another vase about which we can say very good things
Underdrawing, centre of page, in graphite; a figure pushing a trolley or walker towards the left is very faintly visible.


Part of:
Livre de Caricatures tant bonnes que mauvaises. 675.1-389
Waddesdon, The Rothschild Collection (The National Trust)
Bequest of James de Rothschild, 1957



Charlotte Guichard; Connoisseurship: art and antiquities; Colin Jones, Juliet Carey, Emily Richardson, The Saint-Aubin Livre de caricatures: drawing satire in eighteenth-century Paris, Oxford, SVEC, 2012; 283-300; p. 285n

Related literature

Anne-Claude-Philippe de Tubières-Grimoard de Pestels de Lévis, comte de Caylus; Recueil d'antiquités égyptiennes, étrusques, grecques, romaines, et gauloises; Paris; Desaint et Saillant; 1752-1767. i (1752), pl. ci and pp. 273-74
Ronald Ridley, A pioneer art-historian and archaeologist of the eighteenth century: the comte de Caylus and his Recueil, Storia dell'arte, lxxvi, 1992, 362-75
Julie Boch; L'Archéologie comme projet ésthétique: Le "Recueil d'antiquités" du comte de Caylus; Nicholas Cronk, Kris Peeters, Le Comte de Caylus: les arts et les lettres; actes du colloque internationale, Université d'Anvers (UFSIA) et Voltaire Foundation, Oxford, 26-27 mai 2000, Amsterdam, Rodopi, 2004; 79-94
Charlotte Guichard; 'Les amateurs d'art à Paris dans la seconde moitié du XVIIIe siècle' (unpublished doctoral dissertation; Université de Paris-1 Sorbonne; 2005
Charlotte Guichard; Les amateurs d'art à Paris au XVIIIe siècle; Seyssel; Champ Vallon; 2008

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